Do “Most” Support Repeal – or Adding Public Option?

There is a new poll out from  Indiana University’s CHPPR that is actually entitled: “Healthcare Reform Important Even to Those Who want Bill Repealed”

However the sound bite from it – “Most favor healthcare reform repeal” – is making the media breathless about how unpopular HRC is.

The problem with the poll is that when you look at the internals and some of the questions it appears that repeal is not the issue for the vast majority of people, but amending the bill to add a strong public option. This is an interesting review of the new poll.

Here is the most telling stat from the poll (emphasis mine):

“When asked how important they thought it was for Congress to work on “establishment of a public option that would give individuals a choice between government provided health insurance or private health insurance,” 67 percent of Americans rated this as an important topic to address. This finding is even more striking given the fact that 59 percent of those in favor of repealing the health care reform legislation rated the public option as important to pursue.  Another surprise is that 67 percent of Republicans and 59 percent of Independents also agreed that the public option was an important topic to be addressed by Congress.”

So the real headline could be – “Public Will Support Reform if Public Option Included” – or ‘More Work Needs to Be Done on Reform” which is consistent with polls before the bill passed that showed 66% support for a public option.

People seem to be inherently logical and smart enough to understand that competition and choice are important parts of getting costs down and quality up.

Seems like the American people are not interested in a political “Waterloo” but real actions that help them and our nation. 67% of R’s and 59%  of I’s want a strong public option. Why is that no big surprise?

What this tells me is that the American people are a lot smarter than our Congress – especially the united “Party of No” whose entire message seems to be at odds with what their own supporters want.

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4 Comments on “Do “Most” Support Repeal – or Adding Public Option?”

  1. Cliff Samodurov Says:

    This article is the worst kind of twisting the numbers I have seen in a while. It is discusting to see and ironic that the auther is trying to accuse the title of the original article to be twisting the truth, when this author turns around and does exactly that.

    “67 percent of Americans rated this as an important topic to address.” The auther tries to make is seem like this statement means Americans want a public option. I read this as Americans think it is important to address the public option. Certainly addressing the public option in no ways says they are for it or against it, but this author wants to draw their own conclusions… or push their agenda.

    The exact same thing happens in with this quote, “Another surprise is that 67 percent of Republicans and 59 percent of Independents also agreed that the public option was an important topic to be addressed by Congress.” Uhhh yeah, it should be addressed, again there is no conclusion in this statement that they are for it or against it. Note to author: Stop pushing your agenda on others.

    There is more, but I grow tired of this discussion, and those that use facts to push their agenda.

    • John Nail Says:

      Cliff, thanks for the response and using your real name. I agree with you as I continue to state in numerous posts that facts matter.

      My conclusions simply state the obvious that the researches summarized:
      “Bottom Line – It may be that the repeal question is more of a surrogate for whether people support the platform of the Republican party, rather than it being indicative of how they want Congress to devote its time. Further work is needed to see if this is true or not. To that end, CHPPR will be conducting a follow-up to this survey to attempt to answer this question.”

      The Exact question that people responded to is:
      “Establishment of a public option that would give individuals a choice between government-­‐provided health insurance or private health insurance.” I am trying to figure out your point here other than you see me twisting the facts. Pretty clear question.

      Here is a fact. Prior to the bill passing several polls showed from 59-66% of Americans wanted a public option in the bill. Many of those on the far left were against reform because of a perceived lack of spine by Obama and the Dems in not having a public option like what the House had passed.

      So a consistent answer with prior polls and the “will of the people”.

      The first point of my post was the clear difference between the headlines of the UPI and that of the poll itself. The 2 paint a different picture based on a headline, not unusual.

      The internals of this poll indisputably supported the public option as something all political groups were interested in just like Tort reform, RX reform, reining in Wall St. et al.

      In fact however you want to read this poll the conclusions are not “NO” or “Hell No” to reform but wanting to continue working on reform with a public option of very strong interest in that discussion. That is far from any thing that has ever come out of the Republicans. I would call the numbers a disconnect between the leaders and the constituents they are always reminding us they represent.

      Here is where the poll write up begins:
      “Researchers from Indiana University’s Center for Health Policy and Professionalism Research (CHPPR) have found that the “repeal” question may be less about actual policy.
      goals than originally thought.”

      Seems like the facts support their conclusion to me and that which we made originally.

      The real study is here and is quite interesting .

  2. Phil Says:

    Another vote for distortive twisting in your article. Americans easily agree that healthcare is an issue that needs solved but increasingly they equally understand that government is not the answer based upon its inability to successfully run a single social program in a financially solvent manner. officials.

    You completed your demonstration of bias by invoking the party of NO to villify that half of the population that is TAX PAYING CITIZENS (not very inclusive description is it?) that are footing the bills. Far be it for those that earn it, to want a true result from it.

    • John Nail Says:

      Thanks for your comment but once again let me clarify for you. Clearly the vast majority of the country wants healthcare reform. The poll in this article makes that perfectly clear. The how to get there etc. merits discussion/debate and action. Also people need to learn the facts not the noise that has been propagated on reform. It is far from perfect but it is clearly not as the R’s have trashed it either.

      When I refer to the “party of no” I am referring to the Republican leaders of Congress, not the party or people as a whole. The behavior of the R leadership has been and continues to be appalling. Mitch McConnell on the Wall St. reform bill is another classic so egregious his own hometown newspaper called him out on it.

      Had the Republicans behaved like anything but children around reform the bill would likely have been better- though 200++ R amendments are in it. Instead they tried for “Waterloo” and politics…

      How you reach the conclusion that I am villifying the 53% of the population who pay taxes – like myself I do not get. Republicans make up about 30% or so of the electorate as do Dems and roughly the rest list themselves as independents/moderates (like me who voted R from Reagan thru Bush) if we look at the polls. In the article referenced here the poll made it clear that the public option was of great interest to all sides of the political debate, just as polls have shown for over a year.

      People know that competition drives down cost and will increase quality and choice just like it does in everything else in our lives.

      Not all of any of those groups pay taxes and the implication of your comment is that only those in favor of reform or the poor do not pay their share is simply ludicrous.

      Finally how do you see this as a government solution to healthcare. It is completely private enterprise driven with the mandate driving 32 million people right into the arms of the healthplans. It is the greatest gift to any business that has ever occurred in America.


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